Helen Mirren and Vera Baird.
Interesting. It reminds me that once I was speaking with someone who seemed like quite a nice person, but she told me that she would not be able to view a victim on trial without thinking that she must've "asked for it" because of the clothes she was wearing. "I don't agree with you," I told her. "Well, I'm not necessarily saying I agree with me either..." she replied.
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