Ah. Shorter and easier to watch than the entirety of a very long video called "overcoming malignant shame" although the two years of rehab thing is, Thank God, something that certain people have benefited from...
Conan O'Brien: "I Think Fame Is A Drug, I Think It Is A Toxic Drug" - YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6WUzp04UIYI
Seemed to be on the right track here, and then he must have succumbed to clustered attacks of flashbacks from fragile adolescence.
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